Community Wireless in Vancouver - FON, Meraki, something else?

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So, in recent discussions with folks like Darren Barefoot as well as David Vogt of Mobile Muse (and, of course, kicking the idea around the Bryght offices), it's become clear that community wireless in Vancouver is something that really should happen. We've got the Olympics in 2010 staring us in the face, and it seems like that's a good deadline to try and accomplish a variety of innovative things.

BC Wireless has been around for quite some time, but hasn't really crossed over from the geek side. Actually, I need to give it some more time. I reactivated the wiki account I have there and spent some time looking at the various projects going on. The "to do" of analyzing  the various hardware access points that are available looks promising.

While involvement from the various Vancouver municipalities would be ideal, there are other things that can happen from a grassroots perspective. This led me to start poking around some of the technology pieces.

Both FON and Meraki look interesting. Anyone have pointers to similar, off-the-shelf inexpensive wireless access points? Mesh solutions

FON is closely related to voice / VoIP "stuff" and has a compact router for $30US including shipping. That's cheap enough to pick up a couple just to mess around with. Oops! Except their store only lists the US under North America...The discussion of "what is FON" which describes the range of sharing to pay users is a good place to start. If there is interest (leave a comment) I'll try and get a contact with FON about doing a bulk / special order to Canada. Or at least, Vancouver for starters.

Meraki has had some investment from Google and is currently in beta for both pricing and the service. The hardware units are tied to a back end management system for which they also charge for. I sent an email asking about the beta program and got a price list. The nice thing is that they also have ruggedized outdoor units as opposed to the cheap indoor FON units. As well, they are a mesh solution, so can seamlessly cover wide areas.

I sent a follow up email essentially asking "Why Meraki?"...I guess I'm leery of getting locked into a backend management system that charges fees. FON of course has a system as well, but doesn't charge end users directly.

I'll leave it up to Darren to post a poll / survey asking if you would share your home and/or business data connection in order to help blanket Vancouver in wireless...

Other interesting community wireless projects in Canada include Wireless Toronto and île Sans Fil (Montreal)

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bmann's picture

Awesome

Thanks so much for your feedback, Tyler.

I think that both FON and Meraki have their space. I plan to experiment with both, although getting FON is going to be more challenging since they don't currently ship to Canada. The FON option really is more of a consumer / home user option. People can be encouraged to just try it out on their own. With Meraki and the mesh, you can plan to cover certain areas.

The news about the Carnegie Mellon angle is great. Will have to investigate that more... 

Anonymous's picture

cyber mesh launched meshzone in Vancouver

 

I don't know much about meshzone. Or how the revenue model works.

 

 

I have a fon wifi in Hong Kong. It works well, but the sign in is a pain and it does not mesh. As a result I can not recommend fon.

 

So as a result I have left my wifi router open besides the fon wifi. I did get a letter from my isp indicating that someone at some time downloaded a DRM p2p over it. They claimed it was my responability since I did not secure my wifi. But that was a load of crap, so I told them I would cancel my account with them. They backed down and admitted that an open wifi is not illegal. Currently I have a bandwidth limit on the wifi which seems keep p2p from being a significant problem. I do know there is p2p filtering software that can be used. But personally I don't care whether people download their openoffice or linux via p2p or ftp. So I wont' block it, I just limit the bandwidth. 

 

 

Anonymous's picture

Don't use Meraki

http://www.virishi.net/from-happy-hacking-screw-you-story-meraki

 

Better to use B.A.T.M.A.N.N or a RO.B.I.N based mesh setup from ACCON, sill looking for the manuals on how to flash the hardware but it's cheap ($50 / ap) and aimed at MAN's, Meraki will reflash thier firmware at will.