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Federated micro-blogging for Canadian startup networking?


By bmann - Posted on 22 August 2009

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Some of you may have heard that Twitter was down the week before last. This kicked out all sorts of thinking and discussion that, perhaps, one company shouldn't be a single point of failure.

The other item that has been coming up again and again is a request that the Bootup Entrepreneurial Society run a "social network" of some kind. People really enjoy Launch Party and other events, and have found them a great place to network.

More specifically, running Co-Founder Speed Dating, we set up Crowdvine as a mini social network. What we found is that it was heavily used - lots of people used it to check out the backgrounds of other people and it continued to be used after the fact. People who couldn't make it to the event checked in and contacted people, some of which actually resulted in companies being founded.

Back to Twitter. Or, more specifically, Laconi.ca, an open source "clone" of Twitter. The company behind it is launching Status.net - basically, a fully hosted *version* similar to (and interoperable with) Twitter. It also supports a few extras that Twitter doesn't -- like tagging of user profiles (great to do stuff like #cofounder_wanted or #mentor to show lists of users) and groups (great for setting up more "channelized" communications or question / answer about specific topics -- e.g. a "Legal" group).

So, the concept is to run this at something like yvr.bootup.ca, parlez.montrealstartup.com, somecooltorontodomain.com, talk.calgarytechnologies.com, etc. etc. - one in any region that wants to take responsibility to run such a thing.

Each site would serve as a mini social network / hub -- listing profiles of entrepreneurs, mentors, service providers, and anyone else from the regional technology areas that wants to participate.

I'm most definitely not ready to just go ahead with this. Running infrastructure like this is something that has to stay up. Picking a domain is important -- the "namespace" is what defines the community, in part. And, if we go with Laconi.ca as a base, it's actually less interesting if we just stand up one instance - we need at least one other network to commit to setting up and federating with us.

So, those of you have said that Vancouver / Bootup should set up "yet another social network", what do you think? Is this type of federated microblogging a good choice? Go kick the tires on Identi.ca - set up an account, fill out your profile, tag yourself, and start searching for other people.

Other suggestions for tools or requirements for such a system? I'm still not convinced we need something, but I do feel that we need to connect more, to tell the stories that are happening all over Vancouver, and all over Canada.

Anonymous's picture
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Great idea for the highly fragmented community that we have in Canada. I find that across the country there are many isolated tech hubs based on the urban centres like Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal, and the communities don't always talk to one another.

There should be more connections when it comes to the cross country tech scene. Federation could be a way forward.

Anonymous's picture

 For the most part I'm with Kaler on this one.  

On the other hand I used crowd vine with great success but in general another "community" is  not on my priority list.

 

Anonymous's picture

Boris: love this idea. We'll host it on status.net, no problem. I emailed requirements for setting up the network, and I'm sure John will happily manage one for MSU.

-Evan

Anonymous's picture

There are a ton of things I would like to see to build out the startup community here in Vancouver.  What I don't want is another social network I have to update and track every single day.

So, in the spirit of Lean Startups, here is the Minimum Viable Product: define a hashtag.

I can follow this hashtag on Twitter, Flickr, Delicious, blog search, etc, etc and everywhere else that I already live.

See what happens and go from there.

Anonymous's picture

Hey Boris - given our investment bias i'm all for doing something with Status.net - but for brainstorming purposes it's worth taking a look at what Heri has started in Montreal  www.techenterprise.com - maybe open source this with a bit of micro-blogging built in ?

I also spoke to your namesake Mr. Wertz and Rob Lewis about something similar.

See what the rest of our communities think !

Anonymous's picture

I think this is a great concept to really flesh out.

Wonder if Vanilla could help...

hmmm.

Anonymous's picture

We are speaking with Mark O'Sullivan on Monday ... something else to discuss !

bmann's picture

Ideally I don't want to run another place to "chat" -- forums. One of the reasons I came up with using Laconi.ca is that it has great user profiles, you can follow people (asymmetrical, not everyone has to be "friends"), AND you can federate it.

Building yet another "destination" where everyone has to be in the same place is no good. With RT and federation, lots of this stuff can be duplicated in any region.

Christian Nally's picture

Hey Boris,

As someone who's running a community site (for Galiano Island: activegaliano.org), I can see the advantage to having something that posts both locally to a given site -and- seemlessly keeps your Twitter account updated.

It would work best of course if none of your Twitter friends knew what you were doing, but people in the club would get it.

So the question becomes "Is there a Drupal module for that?". If so, I might try to convince a bunch of people on ActiveGaliano.Org to source their twitter accounts for AG.Org accounts and tell them how they can push their stuff to twitter and facebook automatically.

Thanks for the post. Best wishes from way out here.

 

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