This whole community platform thing might have some legs

David Crow in Toronto picks up the community platform meme and lists some other tools / platforms available in response to Chris Pirillo's announcement regarding the building of Gnomepal on Drupal.

I already commented on Chris' initiative here, but here are some comments I made on David Crow's post:

Now, which of those listed platforms have portable data? Which of them are a suitable platform for building the (invariably) custom pieces that each community may want as they grow?

The tough part with many systems -- especially closed, hosted ones -- is that they provide great initial starting points, but then often lack in customization or growth options. And god forbid that your platform provider "go away" -- then you're completely stuck, and need to start over.

This is why I have chosen to go with fully open systems, because they can grow with communities and can never be locked down or disappear.

@Varun:
Facebook is ultimately closed and not a participant in the "open web". And it's someone else's platform with someone else's rules. I would hope that we steer around such closed instances and strive to connect openly.

@Peter Childs:
"What I’d like to see is a platform that recognizes communities are networks of interests (people & organizations) and doesn’t try to become a destination"

I think this is spot on -- don't try and a become a destination IN AND OF ITSELF -- but rather add value through various aggregation and hub features. This also seems to argue for mini-networks that cross sites.

Open platforms are as important as open data or any other cross site initiatives. I don't care what you end up picking as your community platform, as long as your data and your users can seamlessly interwork with the other systems out there. The network is not the destination.

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BuddyPress

BuddyPress is looking good too - I'm looking forward to seeing progress (on the 'social software' and usability side of things) pushed forward by competition between that and Drupal.

Interesting insight, I'm

Interesting insight, I'm excited to see this unfold. The thought of having portable data and not being tied down to a service (or a system) is an important one. My take away quote is that "the network is not the destination."

A disadvantage I'm seeing with traditional aggregation is avoiding duplicate content. I think it's important that original content owners still can take part in discussion surrounding their content and maintain control... maybe content/comment sycing across networks? I love the idea that value could be added to a piece of content (eg. comments, favs, trackbacks, etc) and this would be reflected across all networks. Maybe a little help from RDF?

Good point

The Gnomepal Project looks good. And so do your thoughts to me, as always...

Being inside a Community like the Drupal one has one big pitfall I always recognize, when I start over-evangelizing people who like their system (be it Joomla, Typo3, Wordpress or whatever.)

What is the goal? Sure it would be nice to conquer the World with Drupal and being able to say: hehe, I was there when it was rather small, and I knew...

But Luckily our Project Lead (we are lucky we even have one!) has greater visions. The most recent one being the herementioned openness of Data. And - this is the goal. And man - you can archieve unbelievable things working in the right direction.

The perfect example for this: IE8. Would you have believed 5 years ago, when this thing called IE6 was as dominant in the browser sphere as Windows was in the OS World, that an Initative for mor openness (nothing more is the striving for Standards by W3C and all Standartistas, apart from making Life easier for Webdesigners) named Firefox would be able to bring the stumbling Giant from Redmond to his knees and accept someone other's rules? For nothing else they did, especially with the change to go standards-compliant by default.

I just love to rant against Microsoft, but I don't have to. They have to adopt to the new rules, or they die.

This is good news. Before this comment becomes longer than the original post, I rather stop ;)