Yes, I think I'm getting one.
I'm looking at the Mac Mini to be our new desktop, stay-at-home machine, as well as to form the basis for a media center.
Mike Davidson has a good outline for the Media Mac that he wants to see from Apple, but I'm going to outline how I think the Mac Mini (plus a few other pieces) is going to work for me today.
My personal main machine is a PowerBook 15". At home, an original iMac 15" 800Mhz G4 is our desktop machine.
Generally we use the iMac to watch movies and listen to music (TV given to parents, stereo in storage until we have a bigger place). The Pro speakers go as loud as needed in our small apartment, and Kate and I can sit fairly close to the monitor. I could use my phone to control movie and music playback, but generally I just learn forward and use the keyboard.
The iMac is now almost 3 years old. It's about time for my parents to get a new machine, so it will find a good home there.
So, the Mac Mini becomes our new desktop. With no monitor. Excellent! I've been hemming and hawing over the choice between a projector and a big LCD monitor for a while. I still might add a projector at a later date, but this is a good excuse to get an LCD monitor.
The Benq FP231W is the screen that I've been looking at. It's pricey (about $1800CDN), but has some very good features:
Reading a couple of reviews (I'm not going to link to any, because I didn't really find them useful) seems to indicate that the one downside is that the viewing angle is a bit constrained, so watching from farther away might not be ideal. I'd love to see the screen in person, but haven't found it here in Vancouver anywhere.
Well, that could be it to replicate what we have today, with a machine that is 50%+ faster and a monitor that is...did I mention gigantic? Oh yes: I would have to get some computer speakers back out of storage -- these would connect to the headphone jack that is the audio output for the Mini Mac.
But I want to do a little more media. Specifically, some PVR action, that will let me watch TV and record it on the computer.
So, this means an external solution. The Elgato solutions look like the best bet.
The two Elgato products that would seem to be the best fit for me are:
Actually, there is a third-party product on the Elgato site (since it's bundled with Elgato's EyeTV software): the Plextor ConvertX PX-TV402U (Mac). It's listed at $229US, or $283CDN from the Canadian store. This is an interesting product -- it offers MPEG1, MPEG2, and DivX hardware encoding. No remote, but for the price difference, I can get an ATI Remote Wonder -- and it's an RF, remote, too, so perfect for controlling iTunes when you're not in sight of the computer. The ConvertX looks to be in the lead.
The Mac Mini is going to form the basis for my media center, and I'm going to get the chance to experiment with TV 2.0 using a PVR system. What are you going to do with your Mac Mini?
(Andy has a few uses in mind)
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hope you dont mind dusting
hope you dont mind dusting off an old thread - just wanna give props up to mac mini power!
it's done nothing but wonders for my life to take on the Office 2.0 paradigm for the past 2 years and envy getting a MacBook and keep resisting! :-o
its time will come :)
doing it with the mini
I have a HD Satellite receiver (ExpressVu), a maxed out mini, Sharp 37 inch LCD TV, an EyeTV 200 and Palm Zire 72, They work seamlessly together to play and record high quality (not HD) TV that is better and easier than anything else I have tried. I really like being able to record shows onto DVD for friends and a quality much better then a VCR.
The Sharp connects to the mini's DVI port. the EyeTV only has a S-video port so recording can't get better than that.
I was after the most simplicity with the maximum quality. This works for me.
mini monitor?
Great site - fun info - thanks!
My mini mac arrives this week. I bought my wife an ibook for her education last Fall and she hardly ever gets to use it because now I hate my PC. I'm on her ibook now...
So I'm going to tote my mini mac back and forth from work to home and use it for everything very happily. I'm wondering if there is a mini-screen around that will work with it; a flatscreen less than 12" that I can take back and forth. Seems like there'd be a market for this. Maybe I need to check out screens they install in cars for DVD players. Or is there a way to take apart an old laptop and wire it into a mini mac? Hmm. Any ideas? And how is that eyeTV working out - sounds fun. Thanks!
Love my mini
I ordered a mini the day they came out and just finished setting it up this week. It has become my home server for Perforce (source control), iTunes, and a bunch o' other things.
The only major surprise for me so far was that it won't burn DVDs. Guess I didn't read the specs closely enough, but that's easy enough to work around.
Mine runs happily without a monitor in a little corner in my office. Super quiet.
BTW, I like what you've done with this theme. Any chance you'll release it? (Feel free to overwrite what I've done.)
Love my mini
I bought a Mini and installed plextor but I get faulty dvd's --skips and messes up in different places. Any ideas? I'm trying to make burn copies.
Theme
I need a to-do list somewhere. Basically, this is what I want to do with the theme:
And yes, I definitely will release it. I know just enough CSS to be dangerous
You should check out the Cano
You should check out the Canopus TwinPact 100.
Also check:
http://mitzpettel.com/software/vidi.php
my little how-to and more...
The day the mini was announced I put together a how-to for switchers on making the mac into a Media Center PC...
You can see it here.
I also mention a few tips for using such a thing-- like how to read text on a TV using the RCA jacks...
Ordered a mini as well for the same purpose
I have 2 macs now, a G4 1.42 DP as a file server(with 1.1 TB), EyeTV200(currently on the Powermac,but moving to the Mac Mini. With SwitchRes, I will run it on my Sony G70 projector as an uber DVD player.
Would really like to get a EyeTV HD, but like your other poster, a new G5 is the minimum needed, and that is just too much scratch for my purposes right now. Rather get an HD Tivo for alot less.
Hoping it isn't too hard to hack the memory myself, because I can't fathom paying Apple what they want for memory.
Memory no problem
Basically, the suggestion is to go to Apple to get memory installed (remember -- the main target is actually price-sensitive switchers), but after you get the cover off it's supposed to be quite easy to install.
Your warranty is only voided if you actually break something in the process.
Mac as a Media Center
I think you're going to be "ok" with that Eye TV as a media center, but not if you want High Def. Macs simply don't have the circuitry to even handle Hi Def playback right now. You need a dual G5 to even play back anything.
Apple needs to build hardware encoding/decoding for MP2/MP4 onto their chipsets... that's the bottom line.
Let us know how the Eye TV works out. I've heard good and bad.
No worries on HD
If I go this route, I'll actually just be getting "regular" cable again for the first time. Not too concerned about HD at this point, which would mean some sort of digital cable box (and IR blaster, and, and...it's basically too complicated to think about). We don't have many choices up here in the frozen north of Canada.
I'll likely pick the ConvertX box (hardware encoding of MPEG1, MPEG2, and DivX), although it will still mean using the EyeTV software.
eyeTV 200
Boris - you may want to check out the reviews on the apple store about the eyeTV 200. There is one review that seems to suggest it is not all that great.
This is a link to the review, although I don't know how long that link will be valid.
Actually since it sounds like you aren't going to go with the eyeTV then I guess you don't need to worry about it.
Links don't work
Those Apple Store ones never work. I checked out the reviews, and there actually was only one bad one. They didn't like the cost (it's like $200 more from the Apple Store), the image quality was only OK, and some lag.
Part of it will be hardware, and part of it will be software, so, we'll see.